Milla developed a very strange behavior I'm not sure how to deal with

[Joe_Danger]

She is doing great alright, or so it seems on the surface.
All this started on Wednesday, the 17th after I took Milla and Kala for their shorts, after coming home she was fine but during the night it all went weird.
I didn't think much of it but it'll been days and it's getting worse instead of better.

Basically even though Milla's heat is over and she shows no signs of heat whatsoever, no positioning herself for mating, no kicking with her hind legs, she doesn't even want to be touched back there now, she still calls and she usually calls at night.
It's very loud, her voice should have quieted down by now but it hasn't.
I WILL get her fixed as soon as we figure out what this is, but I'm afraid this behavior may not be related to that.

Here's all she does:
- She screams hear head off in front of the entrance door to the apartment, she's never been outside and doesn't know what's out there except form looking through windows all the time, I live in a building
- She walks from room to room calling, very loudly
- Walks in and out of her carrier sniffing it
She does all this at night, she might meow loudly a couple times during the day but the moment she gets attention she stops

Usually giving her food calms her down, but tonight I figured I'd leave her be and she screamed her heard off for 25 minutes straight.
She doesn't appear to be in pain, she doesn't appear to be in heat either, she just seems to be looking for something and it has been 4 nights now that she's done this.

Kala and Milla are fine together, they play together, Milla still lets Kala nurse for a bit, but this behavior is very strange and very confusing to me.
I'd get her fixed this week if it stops this but I'm afraid it might be some form of heat that isn't manifesting itself properly, is there such a thing? Her heat ended on Monday IIRC

EDIT: She seems to be very very hungry, but Kala barely nurses nowadays.
I'm going to have to convince my vet to do bloodwork and see where this is all coming from, there's no weight loss as far as I can measure but who knows.

EDIT 2: I'm starting to think she is only doing this for attention or because she finds herself alone at night, she HATES being alone but I'm right here in the same room, dunno what's up
When I get up, feed her and all she is quiet, if I go to sleep she seems to start doing it again lol

I feel since she is otherwise fine maybe the best solution is to ignore her and not react to it

[Lilith]

Hi Joe, I had all this with my first Siamese, who came into call at 5 months and obviously couldn't be mated until she was older.

It's absolute hell on wheels! The poor little things just go on and on and on and truly I don't think it's anything to do with bloods - it's hormones! I used to take Jacinth into the spare bedroom and lie awake and cuddle her but nothing pacified her. Even my willing Siamese cross neutered boy, who actually mated her, but that's another story.

My advice would be, the minute Milla stops calling, because even if she's not doing the usual bottom-in-the-air and kicking stuff, she's still calling, is, get her done fast the minute she pauses for breath. Is there any way you could arrange with your vet to bring her in at short notice, just in case she started again?

It could also be the glimpse of the great outdoors that's sparked her off - they're not daft and she may have reasoned that there's a world out there. With lads in it. Also, were there any other cats in the waiting room when she went to the vet's? If one was a full tom she would have picked up on the pheromones (that's what happened with my girl; I showed her at 5 months and although the cats were correctly penned, there were entire males nearby, and she started to call a day or two later.)

Good luck, you'll need it with this one!

[Joe_Danger]

So it could be a form of heat then, but she is fine all day and at night stops when I pay attention to her, I just let her be last night to see how long she'd do it for, didn't talk to her or showed her I pay attention so she went on for about 25 minutes, but if I pay attention to her she stops.
I'm going to have to get her spayed but it has to be timed just right so she doesn't end up like that poor cat of the people we gave Marco to.

Edit: as for me mentioning bloodwork so often, I simply want it done before her surgery to have a good idea of what's going on is all.
I know she is 99% fine but having it done before a surgery wouldn't hurt

Oh and the only other cat there was the vet's fixed female cat, she is always around, she keeps her in there but she is very kind and gentle and has no issues with any of the animals who come in
But there are soo many toms out there, and I did notice cat smell along the way several times so now that she knows what that is lol she might have indeed activated because of it

[Joe_Danger]

yay! It's full on normal heat, it just manifested itself
sorry about the topic guys, but it was so weird I thought it was one of those things cats do for attention, like Milla tends to climb on this one shelf and knock stuff down for attention and since her heat ended I thought this was just new behavior.

it's 4:50AM now, I'm working on some stuff for college and lo and behold Milla is acting all heat like on me XD

So when would it be safe to get her done now if she keeps cycling? Heck maybe the heat never even ended and it was just dormant if there is such a thing since it was only a couple days between it ending and her calling again and now it finally manifested itself into a full blown heat.
FORTUNATLEY she is easy to deal with during her heats, just petting her a bit calms her down.

[Lilith]

Yup - typical! Ohh dear if she could smell tomcat in the street - that's what's done it!

I've been googling as I didn't know for sure, and one site says, wait 2 weeks after the last sign of calling. Well, I'm certain I didn't do that with Molly my youngest - SHE came into call the night before she was booked into the vet's; when I cancelled there was an idiotic mixup because they thought I'd said she was 'poorly' NOT 'calling' and I was puzzled as to why they said, bring her in anyway. It was only when I booked her in again after her heat and took her in that someone said, 'oh, she's been ill hasn't she?' I'm rather slow on the uptake in social encounters and it took me about a week to work that one out lol. Anyway, they spayed her and she came back bright as ever.

Cats CAN be spayed safely while calling, but I shudder at the thought; as I expect you know the 'calling' womb is engorged with blood and unlike the skinny little thing an expert vet hooks out and ties off, it's unwieldy and easily damaged and takes longer to deal with. Could be a good idea to ask your vet what her policy is on this question of waiting.

Another thing is, you probably already know this too but thought I'd mention it, in view of Milla's long coat, it would be less disfiguring to do a midline spay ie the belly is shaved and they go in there - it's no more complicated than the traditional flank spay and she won't be trotting round with a great shaved area on her side for ages (it takes months for even a shorthaired cat to grow its fur back to normal.)

Again good luck - could be that this is just a freak call because of all those delicious pheromones outside; once she's confined to the flat as usual, she might settle down and have less frequent calls. It's said that the Oriental shorthaired breeds are non-stop callers and that the longhaired (despite being Persian lol) are far more placid. Or so they say

[Joe_Danger]

Called the vet today and she would rather wait for the heat to end completely before spaying, she says this happened because it's February which is the natural season for cat mating in our region so when we took her out she smelled all the toms and stuff and that triggered another heat.
Having her shaved isn't an issue, they did that for Anastasia too and she had even longer fur, all I really care about is that the surgery goes well...heard one too many horror stories in the past year that made me reluctant to do this.

If I wasn't so difficult about parting with the kittens(still miss them big time) I would've gone for another few litters, my vet did suggest it would be a shame to fix her considering how well we take care of her, how well we raised the kittens and all but understands I'm no good with parting with the kittens so in my case it's best for her to get fixed.
I really wish I could get Kala fixed at around 5 months or so before she reaches sexual maturity but the only vet that I know of who'd do that is a jerk and I'd rather not have anything to do with him unless I have to, plus that would insult my current vet and I really really don't want to burn bridges with her because she is very nice and very helpful and approachable at any time, so we'll have to wait for Kala to go through her frist heat before spaying

[booktigger]

Why don't you book Kala in at 5 months and say she's had her first heat?

[Joe_Danger]

I'm sooo bad at lying lol it would never fly
like you have no idea how bad I am at lying plus my vet would probably know, she keeps track of all her patients and does regular check ups and everything.

[Joe_Danger]

She was booked for yesterday, Monday...guess what happened Sunday afternoon lol
Now she is going through another heat and the vet says to bring her in a day or two after this heat is over, waiting ain't gonna work for this cat since she keeps cycling, we could also breed her again my vet has two well bred suitors lined up but since I'm not good at parting with kittens that's not happening.

So how big a risk are we running here if we get her fixed a day or two after the heat is over? The vet initially suggested 4-5 days to a week but that doesn't work for Milla since she keeps cycling