Am I expecting too much? Please help...

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Martin-W
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Am I expecting too much? Please help...

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After some advice and some more idea of what 'normal is', please...tying myself in knots trying to make the right decision... :(


We're looking at adopting a bonded pair of rescue (young) cats or kittens into the family. Key criteria (aside from being cute, per my kids, and healthy) is that the cats will fit into the family and be affectionate/friendly (& ideally somewhat playful).

Prior experience looking at rescues is of 1 cat* - our previous rescue, an 18mth old neutered tom, who when we visited him in his pen in the rescue centre, was active, playful and friendly/affectionate/interacting pretty much from the first minute - he chose us/our son, effectively. Then a few years ago we lost him.


Fast-forward a few years and we're looking again. I know things have changed because of Covid, but it feels very different...and the cats we're seeing seem different.
- First pair were 14-week kittens raised at a fosterer, who were very social, immediately affectionate, but were noticeably underweight and hadn't been taken to see a vet (!), so despite their behaviour being right (if rather sedate for kittens), those warning signs and some rather contradictory statements from the fosterer put me on guard enough to move on.
- Second pair (24-week kittens, think given up due to allergies) were billed as being affectionate, but we were shown them in an unfamiliar room to both us and the cats, so the cats were very shy and difficult to interact with. No idea of their true personalities, not sure how we'd know without adopting them and finding out. Second visit and they were still the same.
- Third pair (6-month kittens, given up after 5.5mths as born into a household with several cats already, so wondering how much socialisation/interaction they actually got) we saw today, who were also billed as being affectionate - boy moreso than girl. Get to see them in their pen (home for the last 2 weeks), to find them also rather timid - they would take stroking (and the boy started purring after 5 minutes) but didn't physically warm to it or seek it out - the girl in particular would shy away from your hand. Boy at second attempt let me pick him up and hold him for a few minutes, but again didn't seem to relax. When we left 50 mins later they'd still not changed demeanour.


...and my key questions are:-
- Is this normal? Am I expecting too much and this is perfectly normal behaviour?
- Will they (probably) settle down and become affectionate family cats / lap cats with some settling-in time and some patience? (Possible fly in the ointment here is we have a typical active, occasionally loud 3y.o. daughter)
- ...and were we really fortunate in the behaviour of the cat we adopted years ago, or is his behaviour more normal and we should be walking away from the ones we've seen? My prior experience was as a child and 'my' cat then was equally affectionate and playful, so this is my view of "normal".


Now I've probably made a small mistake already here. I said to my son I wanted him involved in the decision as to which cats we chose, but he seems to be falling for each pair when we visit almost regardless (although he did acknowledge that 2nd pair definitely weren't right). But I didn't expect to be encountering so many timid cats...and I didn't expect the rescue centres to be the ones driving the process to the degree they are.

I'm currently sitting here worried about making the wrong decision and either ending up with hide-away cats and disappointed kids (and me), or 'giving them back' in a month or two, which will feel wrong to me, will mess the poor cats around even more, and will probably break my son's heart a second time...



* OK, not strictly true, we did look at others on the same day, but this was years ago and they didn't stick in the memory because they didn't do what he did and we didn't take them home.
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My first instinct is no you need to find the right cat/s for your family, but then I look at your list and it reminds me of the day I contacted a rescue apologising for my spoilt-brat list of demands from a rescue cat and they reassured me and helped me.

My list was very different to yours. I needed a cat companion for my adult resident cat that was indoor only as indoor was the only home I had to offer. I could not have a long introduction process because I was very limited in how they could be separated short term. How or even whether the cat would relate to me wasn't important, this was for my distressed resident cat, not about me.

You need certain personality traits to fit in with your family and in particular your son. Children will simply fall in love with every cat they meet, or pick one from a litter that is not the right fit for the family, that's kids. My only concern is that you're expecting them to be affectionate and friendly immediately when you first meet them.

The adult resident cat I refer to earlier had in fact only been with me for a few weeks, he was a Ragdoll, and he certainly didn't shower me with love at first meeting. He didn't want to know me, wouldn't look at me or respond to any moves from me at all. I really didn't think he was going to be happy with me, but it's because he was a deeply loving and loyal cat and he had already been bought and sold, bonded with people only to be taken away from them again. He was cold to strangers because he had been betrayed too many times already. He was with me for 6 years and within a few weeks he was the most loving cuddle bug you could ever wish for, inventing games for us to play together, demanding my lap, sleeping on the bed, and giving my friends and family the same stony cold treatment I got the first time we met.

The kittens you're meeting, not only the ones that you saw in an unfamiliar setting, have already been rehomed and traumatised. In their young lives they have been taken away from their mother, from their home, and sometimes from another home. My second girl was rehomed at 9 months and again at 6 years and I don't even know if her home up to 9 months was her birth home or her first rehome - anyway she was pretty much a psychological wreck when I got her, she shot under the bed and I didn't see her for a week, for 6 months I believed she hated being touched and by 2 years I was just over the moon that she stopped bolting every time someone stood up.

I don't recall kittens ever choosing stranger human cuddles over anything else that's more fun or more needed (playing with siblings, or sleep) but it's been 30 odd years since I last had a kitten. My personal thoughts are quite simple - as long as your kittens are healthy, get them out of a cage and into a family where they will learn to be a part of it, engage in play and affection, and love and be loved for the next couple of decades.
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only thing I would add to Mollycat's post is to take a wavy rod toy with you when visiting any future kittens and see how they react to it - if they like playing, and most kittens do, then they will like playing at home with you, and will come out of any hidey-holes to do so - and your 3 year old will enjoy interacting with them with such a toy

kittens don't crave human company but have to grow into it - and very few don't
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I would second the assumption that kittens will get more sociable with age, as long as they are healthy and socialised with humans when young. Very young cats and kittens are too busy - think of your three year old when asked to endure hugs in the middle of an absorbing game, or when there are swings and roundabouts on offer. A warm lap may be a welcome snooze spot, but when they are awake they want to be up and doing. I would not expect kittens to be cuddly, but would expect them to enjoy interactive play, accept a gentle stroke without fear, and to want to investigate new people and objects in a safe, familiar environment rather than to hide from them. Most cats dislike hugs, and will automatically resist the restraint - they can be taught to accept being held, but usually prefer contact on their own terms. I would say my cats have been fun as young kittens, wonderfully companionable as young cats, but only really became lap cats in their middle to older years.
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...and that I guess is the other question with these last two...the fosterer herself said they don't really play, and she's having to teach them how. Seems odd, but if they've been in a house with several older cats and older owners, then they've probably not been shown. Hopefully that's all it is...

As for accepting a gentle stroke without fear...I'm not 100% sure...the girl appeared to tolerate it but still looked fearful (face and body language), while the boy DID purr...I'm just hoping that was a good purr not a self-soothe purr...

I think we're going to adopt them and keep our fingers crossed...the fosterer spoke well of them from when she collected them from their original home, just need to trust she's right and give them some time...
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