Black stuff around cat's mouth

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by TheCatsMum » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:07 pm

Forgot to say, I have an oldie as well - 18.5 year.s

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by bethmachine » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:39 am

sorry to resurrect an old thread but i think i might br able to help-

i have a sphynx whom ive had since he was a 2 month old kitten- being hairless this breed requires a bit of maintenance, they need baths every other week for a couple different reasons- 1) general dust and dirt from every day running around and being a cat. theres no fur to disguise it. 2) the completely bald sphynx cats get oily and will leave stains on your furniture.. i have the kind that has peach fuzz fur which helps keeps the oilyness at bay; and 3) YEAST build up- particularly in the ears and toenails, and ive noticed the exact same symptoms as everyone has described in this thread and im certain the black crusty stuff around his mouth is yeast as well. its just something that is characteristic to their breed- im not sure if its linked to their hairlessness, but the breeder warned me about it and said it was something that is just commonplace for sphynx cats when explaining the maintenance aspect of caring for this breed. my sphynx had to have an extremely invasive surgery (ate some string that wrapped itself around his intenstines, resulting in an $8k operation to get a piece of his stomach carved out and creating the most expensive piece of string ever) and was put on heavy duty meds afterwards, including a course of antibiotics. during this time, all the yeast cleared up instantly - ALL of it, gone in a flash! - but less than a week after the run of antibiotics, the yeast came back all the same. the time he was on the meds has been the only time hes been completely free of the yeast. ive tried various creams and ointments and cleanses, but none of them really work, or at least not for long. hes healthy and happy otherwise, it doesnt bother him, and allows me to do his daily yeast checks without any resistance - swab out his ears (very carefully with q tips and wipes), scrub his nails gently with a soft nail brush and wipes, and usually a kleenex dampened with warm water around his mouth). i bathe him every other week which hes not a fan of, but lets me do with very little protest.

anyway, i cant say for certain if all of your cats have the same, but from what you guys have described sounds identical to what my cat has. while it may be commonplace for sphynx cats, i dont think its supposed to be for other breeds so i would definitely still have your furbabies checked out, but i just thought i should share my experience because it seemed like this thread had a lot of questions but not many answers. for googling purposes, i think yeast or yeast infections around the mouth is called thrush. anyway, hope this helps.. good luck

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by Judith61coast » Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:37 am

Thank you everyone. It has been helpful reading all your posts about this black crusty lip problem. Seems fairly common on many breeds of cats and all ages. My girl has this problem but does not seem bothered by it. She loves having the sides of her face and mouth brushed which gets some of the crust off. Someone said they were trying coconut oil which I think that I will try first. I had been a bit concerned also about cancer but am not now after reading all your posts. An antibacterial may be in order but must be safe to injest. There was another product posted that sounds good. Thank you all. Sounds like a variety of causes with the same scab reaction. I would be interested in hearing more about the outcome of various treatments.
My girl had kitty acne when she was young. This is not acne.
It was interesting to learn about their scent glands too.
So glad to have this forum.

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by Judith61coast » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:04 am

November 24,2018
Just three applications of a tiny bit of coconut oil healed my kitty’s lips of the black crust which had been a problem for weeks!
Her lips are lovely again and ingesting a bit of the oil is very good for her. Thank you for posting this suggestion.
Seems a fairly common problem.

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by Ida1975 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:32 am

Hi, I am new here. Came about this topic from google. My cat has the same problem of the tar like crust at the corner of its mouth. Thanks for all your comments and suggestions. I will try with the coconut oil though my cat will not like it. Hope it works!

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by Hairyskinback » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:01 pm

My boy who is a ordinary ginger moggy has this same black stuff around his chin. I figure it is from dribbling
but we should get a carrier box delivered in the next day or two and then will take him for a trip to the Vet.

Will post and let you know what he has to say.

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by Kay » Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:45 pm

In the case of gingers, for some reason unknown to me, their gums often become spotted with a black pigment, but it isn't crusted or raised in any way, and is harmless

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by enoluv » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:46 pm

i found this question when i was trying to figure out what was wrong with my baby cat. she had some gooey black on her lower lip for days. at first i thought it was just dirt, but after a few days i tried to wipe it off and she was very upset and meowing and squirming away. i put some coco oil on it too and she didn't like me touching it. so i thought it might be a wound and/or infection like some said here. about a day and a half later, she was very sick, screaming in pain if i moved her and not wanting to eat or drink. i dipped into my savings to take her to an emergency vet appointment.

the vet said that the stuff on her lip was just some nasty drool, haha. he wiped it off no problem. he wasn't sure what she was sick with, maybe a virus. he gave her a shot with fluids, antibiotics and painkillers. she felt better after that, but i could tell when the pain killer wore off that night and she was crying out in pain again. i had more to give her. her black lip goo came back, but she groomed it off herself the next day (she still was not okay with me doing it.) it's a few days later now, and she's 90% better. thank goodness.

so i'm out $400 but my kitty is worth it and i'm glad she's okay <3.

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by mocha » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:01 pm

Hi.
I thought I'd join into the conversation as well, as I have been noticing this exact issue with my cat for the past few weeks, and we just adopted him a month ago. He's a 2 year old tabby so I thought it would be feline acne too, but it does not seem to be the case. We also use stainless steel bowls.
We might bring him to a vet regardless for his first check up, but I will try out the coconut oil method before going. Are the oils just rubbed along all "infected" areas daily?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by Mollycat » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:53 am

Is this similar to the dry black crusty bits cats get in the corner of their eyes?

I nearly had a heart attack when I first saw my Ragdoll's red tears, but they are perfectly normal and dry to form those dry black crusty bits. He gets them a lot more than normal cats do and they can be quite hard to pick off once dried, probably uncomfortable. He has quite weepy eyes and gets them in the outside corners of his eyes as well as the inside corner.

My hunch would be dried saliva, if it dries hard on this very sensitive skin area then it probably would cause some discomfort especially when we come along wanting to wipe or pick it off. And something like coconut or olive oil would help it come off easier and keep the area clean.

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by Lilith » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:36 pm

Ummm, this is interesting, because in the last few days my Molly has had a bit of bother with HER eyes, resulting in black gunk in the corners. This has now almost cleared and I suppose it was useful because I was in the middle of (after 7 years of owning her or should that be her owning me?) gently training her to let me stroke her face. At the same time I've noticed two tiny pinhead spots beneath her chin of the dreaded black tarry stuff ... she's scratted one and there's a fleck of dried blood. She has let me stroke away the muck from her eyes ... on occasion. I swear by coconut oil (just the bog standard stuff unless you're into gourmet cookery) for skin, healing, whatever, will try this on her chin. If she'll let me.

She's ginger but none of this is the smooth black pigmentation around lips that gingers (who are actually dilute black cats) accumulate with age. She's a semi-housecat - that is, she doesn't go out into the secured garden unless I open the back door on a warm day. Her sleeping places are rather like the joke about the pet gorilla (what do you call it? Sir. Where does it sleep? Where it likes) and all the doors in the house are left open so I can guarantee she chooses somewhere cosy and out of draughts.

My darling Emily (avatar) arrived after a year's feralness with 5 kittens and persistent black gunk round her eyes and nose; due, I reckon to what they call a low grade infection from sleeping under cars etc. Have you ever picked a cat's nose? It's fun (not!) but the cat feels very relieved! In later life this cleared up but her poor ears started with the blackstuff. She was such a good girl; she let me clean them with a fingertip (short fingernail) and tissue and she even purred and rammed her ear against my finger to gain relief. We used eardrops too.

So. This is a mystery!

I'm not surprised this thread has lasted for years; how does this black gunk happen?

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by Hipkit » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:31 pm

It's possible that the black bits around the mouth are flea poop, especially if they turn to blood when you try to clean them. If one of my cats had persistently weepy eyes it would be a trip to the vet; this could be a sign of a blocked tear duct. I used to have a cat, Polly, who had a blocked duct and eventually learned to enjoy having her eye wiped.

Eyes are precious and easily damaged. Don't hesitate to go to a vet.

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by Lilith » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:29 pm

Hi, Hipkit, she really is much improved, brighteyed and bushytailed, and worry not, if I thought the vet was needed, I'd contact them. She hasn't got fleas either ... errm I know EVERYONE says that but truly we haven't ... I say 'we' as the little dastards always bite me first and owing to long acquaintance with cats I know what flea turds look like ... arrgggh, I'm itching at the thought!

Where's the backscratcher?

No, Molly, I didn't mean you!

But it IS a mystery - and one I'll keep my eye on ...

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by Mollycat » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:00 am

Yes Lilith I have to pick a cat's nose on a regular basis because Boo has been sneezing and coughing periodically since I had him. It's only in the last few months one switched on vet explained about latent herpes infection after several over the years have shaken their heads, announced that his upper and lower respiratory tract are clear and said all they have left to offer is a chest x-ray. That's despite it clearing every time the poor love has had antibiotics for anything else. So we have the crusty black stuff from the left nostril as well. Most of the time a wipe is ok but occasionally it scabs and hurts.

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by Mom4ever » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:41 pm

Our vet just examined our cat and said he has stomatitis, a reaction to tartar around his teeth. That caused the black stuff. He put him on prednisolone and doxycycline. Hope he doesn't have to extract any teeth.

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by mayat09 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:57 am

My orange buff tabby (13 yo) has had the black crusty bottom sides of mouth for months now. Asked my sister who is a vet and she hadn’t heard of it, but didn’t seem concerned. Brought him into the vet today and vet also didn’t know, but said since it didn’t smell, itch, or seem to hurt, that I should just keep an eye on it and bring him back if anything changes. In the meantime, she suggested cleaning with a paper towel soaked in warm water and a mild soap.

Scent glands is an interesting diagnosis, and there certainly seem to be pores in that area that could be secreting excess fluid for some reason. My other guess, which has also been mentioned a couple times is a bacterial/yeast infection. Not all yeasts smell, so I may try an antibacterial ointment or coconut oil (a natural antibacterial).

Re: stomatitis, above. That’s an internal mouth disorder. Maybe it can cause the crusts, but my cat was checked and does not show any signs of stomatitis or gingivitis.

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by Mouseyone » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:51 am

Just googled about this, and this thread popped up. My 1 yr old black longhaired female has black crusty blobs on lips. No idea why and none of my other 5 do. I will try the coconut oil and see how it goes. Thanks for the tips.

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Re: Black stuff around cat's mouth

Post by Fishcaledwanda » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:35 am

My Fanackarpan who is an oriental blue tabby gets this on a regular basis. She will not let me touch it, but it falls off after a few days. It returns, usually within 4 - 6 weeks for a few days and doesn't bother her at all.

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